Francisco de Goya

The Same Elsewhere (Lo mismo en otras partes)

The Same Elsewhere (Lo mismo en otras partes)
Datos Generales
Ca. 1810 - 1812
162 x 240 mm
Técnica y soporte
Etching, lavis, drypoint and burin
Reconocimiento de la autoría de Goya
Undisputed work
Ficha: realización/revisión
01 Dec 2010 / 28 Oct 2022

Signed Goya (lower left-hand corner), 14 (lower left-hand corner).


See Sad presentiments of what must come to pass.

There is a third artist's proof that predates the writing and numbers added later. It bears signatures on the lower left-hand corner.

The title was handwritten on the print by Goya in the first and only series that is known to have been printed at the time the works were created, which the artist gave to his friend Agustín Ceán Bermúdez. Therefore, the title was etched into the plate at a later date and left unchanged as of the first edition of the Disasters of War printed by the San Fernando Royal Academy of Fine Arts in Madrid in 1863, after the printing of the series in the possession of Ceán Bermúdez.

There is a surviving preparatory drawing for this print which is housed in the Prado Museum in Madrid.

Análisis artístico

A large number of corpses lie within a cave. Some of the figures still hold weapons in their hands and are still dressed, from which we can deduce that their deaths happened only a short time ago. The violent postures of the bodies and their facial expressions - some of the figures' mouths are open - accentuate the horror of the scene. The atmosphere of the scene is spectral, and it is clear that the bodies have not been discovered as yet.

Goya has made great use of etching techniques in the case of this print, creating short, horizontal lines that serve to capture the huge rock on the right-hand side of the composition that suggests the wall of the cave.

This print continues the series of images begun in prints no. 21, It Will Be the Same and nº 22, All This and More in which the corpses have the central role, depicted as human remains devoid of any dignity.

The artist has used the device of a cave in other works such as those depicting cannibals Cannibals Preparing their Victims. In those cases the space serves to create a different kind of atmosphere, with the cave represented as a place that shelters man and protects him - even in the case of the cannibals. In this print, however, the cave has not protected those who now lie dead within it.


The plate is stored in the National Chalcography (cat. 274)

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